With holograms come new stats?

[picolo]

Ive always wondered why fake monsters dont act the same as beamed monster. Like an acid spitter shot and my (real) flying slime and blasted it. And my (holo) slime beast took about 2. And why when i holo an Alien Queen sometimes the commander doesnt die from it's attacks.

Anyone... does holograms have the same stats as beamed... please no one flame me I have just always wanted to know this.

[Bakster]

I got a real spider once, and a commander with 5 def survived 2 attacks.

[matlu]

Holograms have same stats as real monsters.

Like an acid spitter shot and my (real) flying slime and blasted it. And my (holo) slime beast took about 2

there is no guarantee, that your attack will kill the oponent's monster. There is only PROBABILITY. For example if your attacking monster has exactly same strenght as is the defence of defending monster, there is 50% to kill it. It's like when you flip a coin. In average (if you flip the coin many times) you should get both sides same number of times. But it may easily happen that you get same side 2 times in a row, 3 times in a row, or even more.

When the strength of attacking monster is higher than defence, the probability to kill is a bit higher. But STILL the attack may be unsuccesful quite often.

[SiR gUt]

Also matlu i always wondered one thing aswell. When you attack like a spider with 6 different cretures, say a flying slime, laser robot, acid spitter, hover tank, fire hound, and like a sentry robot and the robot kills the spider. Do the other creatures weaken the spider at all? or each attack is its own attack. So if flying slime attacks the spider and say the spider lives does it weaken the spider at all for the next monster to attack?

[exiledragon]

The monster does not weaken as it is hit ( i think  )

[ultswordsman]

i thin k they are

[Kiz]

No, they don't.
Like matlu said, there is only a probability of killing the monster, that's it.

[matlu]

No, they don't.
Like matlu said, there is only a probability of killing the monster, that's it.

exactly. All the formulas, tables and equations in "combat system" thread are about this. People have to either understand them, or at least believe them.

[SiR gUt]

yes i know was just making sure

[TheMcCool]

Oh my god guys... I have the most amazing idea. Get rid of the hologram feature! No more holos omglolz

[raikoukami]

i don't see why a spider getting ganged by a mob of 6 wouldn't die i think you should be able to weaken it or something...it would make sense

[Kiz]

i don't see why a spider getting ganged by a mob of 6 wouldn't die i think you should be able to weaken it or something...it would make sense

The thing is that it's not that it wouldn't die, it CAN die. In sir gut's example the chance for that spideroid to be killed that turn if it was attacked by each unit would be about 50%.
This means that there is a smaller chance of the spideroid surviving to later turns. Surviving by the first turn would be 50%, by the second 25%, by the third 12%, and so on. This is almost the same as if it was being weakened except this works with probability.
This is also what makes it seem like the spideroid is being weakened.

But, really, there shouldn't be any fuss here.

[matlu]

i don't see why a spider getting ganged by a mob of 6 wouldn't die i think you should be able to weaken it or something...it would make sense

You are RIGHT! It is VERY nice concept, and it WOULD make sense!

BUT

- this is a clone of Cyberwars (and of Chaos), and these games DON'T have this concept
- to have something like "hitpoints" or "lifepoints" would require very severe changes, and I'm not going to do it for many reasons, which I already explained